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Kuki June 15th, 2011 03:49 PM

Princess BANS smoking in cabins and on balconies
 
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Your thoughts?

green_rd June 15th, 2011 04:28 PM

As a non-smoker I say "yea and amen", but I can see problems, smokers sneaking a smoky treat on the balcony and then throwing their butts overboard to avoid getting busted, arguments between passengers and hotel staff about whether they violated the ban.

Snoozeman June 15th, 2011 05:04 PM

I think all the Carnival Corp. brands will be announcing it in next few days.

nlb1050 June 15th, 2011 05:36 PM

There are a lot of posts on Joh heald's FB page about the changes on Carnival. A number of people are asking if they will get a full refund for the cruises they have booked for next year becasue they now will not cruise with Carnival. Carnival is going to allow smoking on the balconies so I can see a lot more non smokers complaing about the smoke from neighboring balconies. I am a smoker who does not smoke in the cabin so my main thought was I've had a hard time finding a place to sit on the Lido what will it be like now that smokers have less places to smoke so there will be even more looking for a place to sit.

A number of people on John's page have also stated that there will probably be a number of people who won't care and will still smoke in the cabin incurring a $250 cleaning charge and of course some of these people will complain that no they were not smoking in the cabin. I don't know if Princess will have the same but am sure they will.

Trackypup June 15th, 2011 07:07 PM

Carnival, Princess and HAL all announced it today. Princess the strongest with balconies and staterooms. HAL and Carnival just staterooms.

fun2cruiz June 15th, 2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuki (Post 1376428)

Well it was inevitable, but to take it to the level that =x= has done i.e. no smoking in staterooms or on balconies..... a tad extreme in my eyes. No smoking in staterooms is fine.....Overall, I think now that if the Carnival Umbrella of cruiselines is going to take the "non smoking" approach and if they all include no smoking on balconies as Princess will do, in the end, this will deter smokers from cruising at all...... But then again, that could be a good thing if they start seeing an issue filling ships arise.... they may have to offer lower rates to fill the ships if this backfires on them !

ruthlessboss June 16th, 2011 06:58 AM

I'm upset about the cabins, even though I rarely smoked in one. It's the thought of the priviledge to be able to smoke there has been taken away. That being said, it's the heavy indoor smokers that helped ruin it for others.
I'll be doing some searches for cruises prior to the cut off date to get my cruise fixes satisfied. It will take a while, but current upset cruisers will gradually return, after all, where else can we go? The true killer for me would be a casino smoking ban, except for a few minutes of thrill, my money will stay in my pocket.

anniegb June 16th, 2011 07:49 AM

Why can't there be 2 casinos - 1 smoking and 1 non-smoking? Or does that already exist?

I enjoy a flutter but I stay out of the casinos because of smoking and wonder if others do?

Annie

ruthlessboss June 16th, 2011 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by anniegb (Post 1376514)
Why can't there be 2 casinos - 1 smoking and 1 non-smoking? Or does that already exist?

I enjoy a flutter but I stay out of the casinos because of smoking and wonder if others do?

Annie

That would be ideal, or somehow partitioned off better. On Carnival Dream, the casino was huge. Only a small corner at the far end was for smokers, and usually full (Not sure about card tables) But I noticed non smoking areas were less visited. That being said, the smoke odor from " our" little area did drift into quite a large area beyond.

Queen of Oakville June 16th, 2011 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Trackypup (Post 1376463)
Carnival, Princess and HAL all announced it today. Princess the strongest with balconies and staterooms. HAL and Carnival just staterooms.

HAL too? I have to look into that. This was one of my biggest complaints with the HAL casino. THey did not have non-smoking tables. We begged the pit boss some nights to open up a non-smoknig table but he refused. I wonder if that will change with the new smoking policy?

green_rd June 16th, 2011 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nlb1050 (Post 1376447)
I am a smoker who does not smoke in the cabin so my main thought was I've had a hard time finding a place to sit on the Lido what will it be like now that smokers have less places to smoke so there will be even more looking for a place to sit.

As there are becoming fewer places to smoke the smoke in those places where it is allowed has become thicker. I worked in a building once that had a separate office for smokers (it was an old computer room with separate ventilation.) It was pretty nasty. For me it was much better a few years before to visit a smoker at their desk than enter this room. A few of the smokers opted out of sitting there because the air was so bad.

Fern June 16th, 2011 10:23 PM

A copy of what I posted on the Princess board:

"I don't think that cruise ships will ever go completely non-smoking as long as it's legal (and not only in the US, other countries smoke more than we do).

You really can't compare cruising to any other vacation area or non-smoking area. You can always leave a park, a restaurant, a hotel, etc., and have a smoke, but you can't get off the ship (unless you want to take a swim!) to smoke!

Those of you who have never smoked have no idea how hard it is to stop (even for a cruise :-)). Smoking is addictive, just like other addictions. A smoker without some kind of help will go through "classic" withdrawal symptoms. Is this really something you'd want to do on vacation??

Also, there are the groups who cruise. If there are 20 people in a group and one or two smoke, they're going to pass on cruising if smoking is totally prohibited.

I think that the Carnival Corporation has done a fair job of giving smoker's a couple of places to smoke on all it's ships (Carnival, Princess, HAL, etc.).

A "quitter", "

Lakers Fan June 16th, 2011 11:03 PM

The Mayor of NYC mandated that there is to be no smoking on beaches and in public parks . My thinking is that within the next 10 years smoking will be non-existent on every cruise ship with a USA home base.

ruthlessboss June 17th, 2011 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Henry43 (Post 1376677)
The Mayor of NYC mandated that there is to be no smoking on beaches and in public parks . My thinking is that within the next 10 years smoking will be non-existent on every cruise ship with a USA home base.

And many will choose not to cruise at all if that happens. Smoking is part of some people's lifestyle. To book a smoke free cruise for a week or more would take a very special person. I would have to be very desperate for a cruise to do that, you have no place to go in the confines of a ship. Withdrawal isn't pretty.

green_rd June 17th, 2011 09:12 AM

Carnival tried a totally non-smoking ship several years ago, how long did it last?

I understand that if you have woken up every morning and lit a cigarette it would be very hard not to do it while on a ship. I agree with ruthlessboss that people who smoke will continue to smoke or choose not to cruise.


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